The division between the Divine and the Demoniacal
byMieke Mosmuller
27-01-2016
4 comments
Bhagavad Gita, chapter 16
6. There are two types of beings in this world—the divine and the demoniacal; the divine has been described at length; hear from Me, O Arjuna, of the demoniacal!
7. The demoniacal know not what to do and what to refrain from; neither purity nor right conduct nor truth is found in them.
8. They say: “This universe is without truth, without a (moral) basis, without a God, brought about by mutual union, with lust for its cause; what else?”
9. Holding this view, these ruined souls of small intellects and fierce deeds, come forth as enemies of the world for its destruction.
10. Filled with insatiable desires, full of hypocrisy, pride and arrogance, holding evil ideas through delusion, they work with impure resolves.
11. Giving themselves over to immeasurable cares ending only with death, regarding gratification of lust as their highest aim, and feeling sure that that is all,
12. Bound by a hundred ties of hope, given over to lust and anger, they strive to obtain by unlawful means hoards of wealth for sensual enjoyment.
13. “This has been gained by me today; this desire I shall obtain; this is mine and this wealth too shall be mine in future
14. “That enemy has been slain by me and others also I shall slay. I am the lord; I enjoy; I am perfect, powerful and happy”.
15. “I am rich and born in a noble family. Who else is equal to me? I will sacrifice. I will give (charity). I will rejoice,”—thus, deluded by ignorance,
16. Bewildered by many a fancy, entangled in the snare of delusion, addicted to the gratification of lust, they fall into a foul hell.
17. Self-conceited, stubborn, filled with the intoxication and pride of wealth, they perform sacrifices in name, through ostentation, contrary to scriptural ordinances.
18. Given over to egoism, power, haughtiness, lust and anger, these malicious people hate Me in their own bodies and those of others.
19. These cruel haters, the worst among men in the world —I hurl all these evil-doers for ever into the wombs of demons only.
20. Entering into demoniacal wombs and deluded birth after birth, not attaining Me, they thus fall, O Arjuna, into a condition still lower than that!
21. Triple is the gate of this hell, destructive of the self—lust, anger, and greed—therefore, one should abandon these three.
22. A man who is liberated from these three gates to darkness, O Arjuna, practises what is good for him and thus goes to the Supreme goal!
It is clear what we have to do to release ourselves from the demoniacal - from the point of view of Krishna.
The division between the Divine and the Demoniacal by Mieke Mosmuller
Krishna describes a status quo, the division between the divine and the demoniacal as a fact. This fact is the starting point for a development toward the divine, or being bound in the demoniacal.
6. There are two types of beings in this world—the divine and the demoniacal; the divine has been described at length; hear from Me, O Arjuna, of the demoniacal!
7. The demoniacal know not what to do and what to refrain from; neither purity nor right conduct nor truth is found in them.
8. They say: “This universe is without truth, without a (moral) basis, without a God, brought about by mutual union, with lust for its cause; what else?”
9. Holding this view, these ruined souls of small intellects and fierce deeds, come forth as enemies of the world for its destruction.
10. Filled with insatiable desires, full of hypocrisy, pride and arrogance, holding evil ideas through delusion, they work with impure resolves.
11. Giving themselves over to immeasurable cares ending only with death, regarding gratification of lust as their highest aim, and feeling sure that that is all,
12. Bound by a hundred ties of hope, given over to lust and anger, they strive to obtain by unlawful means hoards of wealth for sensual enjoyment.
13. “This has been gained by me today; this desire I shall obtain; this is mine and this wealth too shall be mine in future
14. “That enemy has been slain by me and others also I shall slay. I am the lord; I enjoy; I am perfect, powerful and happy”.
15. “I am rich and born in a noble family. Who else is equal to me? I will sacrifice. I will give (charity). I will rejoice,”—thus, deluded by ignorance,
16. Bewildered by many a fancy, entangled in the snare of delusion, addicted to the gratification of lust, they fall into a foul hell.
17. Self-conceited, stubborn, filled with the intoxication and pride of wealth, they perform sacrifices in name, through ostentation, contrary to scriptural ordinances.
18. Given over to egoism, power, haughtiness, lust and anger, these malicious people hate Me in their own bodies and those of others.
19. These cruel haters, the worst among men in the world —I hurl all these evil-doers for ever into the wombs of demons only.
20. Entering into demoniacal wombs and deluded birth after birth, not attaining Me, they thus fall, O Arjuna, into a condition still lower than that!
21. Triple is the gate of this hell, destructive of the self—lust, anger, and greed—therefore, one should abandon these three.
22. A man who is liberated from these three gates to darkness, O Arjuna, practises what is good for him and thus goes to the Supreme goal!
It is clear what we have to do to release ourselves from the demoniacal - from the point of view of Krishna.
The division between the Divine and the Demoniacal by Mieke Mosmuller
Comments
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From Boudolf @Wijsheid is van alle tijden. Vers 8 vertolkt van dichtbij de huidige materialistische opvatting van de fysieke wetenschap en van een deel van de publieke opinie. Wat daarna volgt, doet me denken aan de valse idealen die door onze marketing-gestuurde maatschappij worden aangeprezen, terwijl de werkelijke zielenood van vele mensen schrijnend is, maar in zijn ware omvang slechts druppelsgewijs aan de oppervlakte komt.
Vers 20 doet me dan weer denken aan het Beest uit de Apokalyps en zij die het zullen volgen.
Maar als ik kijk naar mezelf, moet ik eerlijk toegeven dat ik wel nog wat goddelijke kwaliteiten ontbeer, gezien vanuit het standpunt van Krishna. -
From kees@ @Welke betekenis kan de de Bagavad Ghita in deze tijd hebben om je mee uiteen te zetten, meer dan alleen kennis nemen van?(in de context van zelfontwikkeling) De inhoud betreft een oude tijd met ook hele andere mensen en een ander bewustzijn dan wij nu hebben.
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From Mieke Mosmuller @De weg naar verlossing is in onze tijd natuurlijk wel echt heel anders. Maar, zoals de heer Boudolf hierboven zo mooi beschrijft, er zijn wel indrukwekkende beelden in te vinden die blijvend geldigheid hebben. Die beelden zijn heilzaam op zich, ook de verhevenheid van de woorden. Terwijl de demonische krachten daar nog meer natuurgeweld in de ziel zijn, zijn ze in onze tijd verdicht en in negatieve zin verfijnd, gecultiveerd.
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From kees@live @Het is waar dat het lezen inderdaad verheven gevoelens wekt en ook van besef ontstaat dat we veel meer zijn dan de maatschappij ons wil doen geloven of zelfs opdringt .Maarde weg tot het vinden van het Zelf moet nu een andere zijn, en toch moet er ook een overeenkomst zijn.Het is ook wel bijzonder dat in Wie erlangt man het advies staat dit geschrift (en ook de navolging van Th a Kempis uit Zwolle ) te lezen ter compensatie van een gemis aan een harmonische omgeving. Ik vermoed dat u dat ook bedoeld. Dank voor dit antwoord!